Saturday, December 21, 2019

A Truckee White Christmas

As the song says "I'm dreaming of a White Christmas...". Except, I don't dream it, I live it. Today the winter solstice is officially here. We wish everyone a pleasant Christmas and a happy, prosperous and healthy New Year.

Thus far we've had a very busy,  social holiday season with a bit more until the arrival of  2020. From here on it is snow-shoveling, blowing and pushing snow...my major winter cardio/muscle-toning exercise.

Generally, the snow accumulation is minimal and manageable...
On right, our front- entry...before the heavy snows
back patio decks, upper cleared , lower not...before moving BBQ 
under the extended/sky-light eaves

then the snowfall and pack gets serious...Such is the time when I manually clear our back-patio decks in a TIMELY fashion; if not, ice forms making for difficult clearing. I do not do the lower deck, but make sure I clear the upper-deck section to assure our windows are clear and free of snow. If not, we'll live in snow-cave since all the other windows on our 1st floor,  we're we do 95% of our living, around our 6500' elevation home are covered in snow from the sloping roofs' constantly "unloading".
After a "big dump" 
 
After my shoveling/pushing...beautiful mountain snow & sunshine!
In the front drive-way we have a plowing service, but I still have to "blow" snow with my handy Honda snow-blower to keep our garage-side entry door accessible; since our real "front-door" is not available when the deep snow-pack arrives at our 6500' elevation home
Deep snow view of backyard Tahoe National Forest 


Wednesday, November 13, 2019

Tahoe-Truckee Region...Fall Journal 2019

Let'em Breathe!
9/29---SCOUTING:
I was looking for signs of early, migrating Browns...too early.

About 1330 I fished in intermittent sleet and snow....everything was damp. Regardless, for the next 1-1/2 hours I saw steadily rising, in-the-film or just below, slurping trout.

I believe the heavy rain/sleet/snow prevented any emerging aquatic bug breaking through the meniscus with the heavy pelting of sleet and wet-snow....amazing that the trout could pick-out a food item.

Worked a disperse pod at Papa's.. Unbeknownst to me, during about 15" of casting to the working feeders, I realized that I been fishing...fly-less!  a #18 BWO, foam-top-emerger fly I'd had attached to my 5X tippet must have popped-off on my back-cast because of my inattention to the high willows behind me....duh.

It was getting nasty; so I decided to make a hasty retreat from the weather. On the way-out I observed a minimum of 1/2 dozen upper-water-column feeders at both the 610 and Richard's Pool.

9/30---SCOUTING:
Snowing again! Hope it melts soon and I'll have an opportunity to get my drift-boat "off the mountain"...Where? I haven't decided yet, favoring Greg's place in Auburn, so it will be in close proximity for drifting the Yuba.

I'm guessing the Boca dam's re-enforcement work for the season is finished or on hold for completion in 2020. LT's Boca inlet is rising-up-river; inflow recently up-ramped to 132cfs (40 is historical average) with the out-flow at Boca at 92cfs (110 average)...hence rising pool of Boca.

10/1---Retrieved net in Sparks...amazed at Sparks; reminding me of developments in the East Bay once BART increased its tracks/

TO FISHING FRIEND:
"...Wednesday and Friday I'll be 'dialing-in" (exact times of hatches and surface-feeding) for fall fishing."

10/3---fished the BT along Glenshire Drive for all of an hour. I'm getting to old scrambling up, over and through boulders in a freestone stream...no fish.
BT in the canyon...Water too cold.

 10/4---Well, I'm sure I will not be lucky again...lost the net again!!! I'm looking for blame and blaming it on ORVIS for not putting a center belt loop on their light-weight wader. Hence my long-handled "de-liar" net slips out and away if goes downstream. Had to buy an expense net at ACE for my guiding in Friday.

10/5---SCOUTING:
checked-out the LT inlet to access conditions today. Two fly anglers there and one hooks into a heavy fish. He didn't have his camera and I took a "grip & grin" for him before the release of a 24"-25" RB. It ate a #20 non-descript nymph under an indo, sans lead and in a shallow riffle. We're still waiting for the Browns to "stage" before going up-river.

10/6---GUIDING:
Guided a 1/2 day on the LT today with a first-time client from Georgia. I love guiding anglers from the east-coast or southern states because they seldom catch wild trout beyond 12". He was elated that he hooked 4 and netted three wild RB's; two at 15" and one at 16". The productive flies were a #20 silver-beaded, Black Zebra Midge while  indo-fishing with two BB's and #18 copper-bead, generic BWO emerger pattern via a dry/dropper rig.

There were few rising trout and sparse adults in flight. All four aquatic orders of adults were observed; second-brood BWO's and an unknown larger mayfly, the ubiquitous midge, three different sized  caddis. the largest one is what I call the "False Fall Caddis" or Cinnamon  Caddis...people mistake for the real October Caddis (Discomeous), which in my opinion is larger and has a darker colored wing. The last bug viewed was the Olive Stonefly. Interestingly, JR  stomach-pumped a brown trout that had numerous little dark stonefly nymphs.


10/7--I've actually refused 4 days of guiding for this week and the next. Guess I'm getting a bit burnt-out PLUS I'm not receptive to guiding on a short-notice basis especially new clients...not to my liking; exception being long-term clients.

10/9--FISHING ADVICE FOR LT/BOCA INLET FOR A TTFF MEMBER:
  "…generally if no surface, showing fish; indo with 4’ drop to #4 lead, worm trialing #18-20 midge pattern (silver-bead Zebra Midge) or generic small fly. If showing fish “bulging” at or near the surface; a visible dry indicator fly, trailing by 18”-24” a midge pupa an/or larva or JuJu Baetis…Fish the first riffle entering the lake, the vertex of the two converging currents OR the 'slick' water.

10/12---FEEDBACK FROM TTFF MEMBER ON LT/BOCA INLET ANGLING:


"Your advice worked wonderfully! I used a worm on top and one of those midges on the bottom fly with 5X tippet close to 18” behind. I had an indicator on and a bit of lead and caught a fish on my first cast!  Bam indicator down and I’m like what the heck set the hook and game on. Then I removed the lead when I moved to the faster water near that riffle where the LT feeds into the lake. I hooked three fish there on the midge. First two came unbuttoned but the last one I kept a lot of pressure on and landed a nice 14” rainbow. It fought like crazy. I kept him wet and he survived but I managed to get a quick photo of him. Thanks again!"  

10/16--Unbelievable Sam found my net where I thought I lost it. I'll pick-up at TU office in town. Promised Sam some flies or fishing time as the reward per note on my net handle

10/17--my PP for the club went well, bigger attendance the I anticipated...No one fell asleep and It went about 35"-40". Larry sent me an e-note (he's was in Mexico) and he said "...sounds like you hit it out of the park"...Well, I was confident that I would...da Dean speaking

10/19--too windy to fish...Boca inlet filling. There was a nice  cloud-cover, what I've been looking for, but not the gusts o f wind!... especially when I'm targeting surface-slurpers. Was not in a mood for sling heavy stuff.

10/25---FISHING WITH A BUDDY:
Worked dimpling trout at LT inlet for an hour; not a touch, down to 22's and long, wispy 6X leaders...Then Dutch and I did lower meadow; nothing...Sure a nice Fall day...lots of psuedo's, Little Olive Stones and a lone October Caddis...gentle breezes as opposed to the inlet

Fall-time PsuedoCleons on both the LT and BT
                                    
10/28--REPLY TO E-NOTE FROM  ANGLING AQUAINTANCE SEEN IN TOWN:
"Pat---Nice seeing you...As I mentioned I'll not be at Pleasanton this year.

My booth, "Truckee Guide NetWork", will be occupied with people I work with fly fishing-wise with in Truckee...So I'll miss seeing Fanny in 2020; Remember when I gave a presentation to GWWF at the Fanny's house in the mid-90's?...When Mel was in the "dog-house".

Via a family friend, for his birthday, I got Stefan his first, three fly fishing books when he was in high school. He now lives in Reno.

GGWF has always been dear to my heart...I remember the unbelievable buffet/fundraisers they had at Fort Mason...the food was unbelievable. I was there when you ladies started as well when the International Women Fly Fishers was started at a dinner at the Yet Wah (sp?) restaurant on Clement Street. I gave a talk at the IWF's 10th anniversary at Squaw Valley (2005 or 6?).

Have any GWFF contact me anytime for an update on the ffing conditions..."

11/2----
Had fun guiding/instructing for the TU fundraiser on the SFFCC...numerous fat trout caught by the 8 who each contributed $1500..$12000 for the trout! 

11/3---
Grape-vine report of a 29" Brown...

11/4---
Saw an image of a minimum 24" RB netted on the LT ..a very rare RB.

11/5--- Been fishing with Al and Dom in the afternoons on the LT. Tough fishing, no numbers and tiny 20-22 JuJu Baetis & Black Zebras. Bugs at surface & lots of sippers; dark-side has produced Dom has landing  a couple of 18” RB’s…Yesterday he did 7/3 (one break-off) during the 3 hour 2-5PM session. Al hooked-up 2-3 times, lost them after extended battles…he has to develop his skills on fighting the fish. He got a 16”-17” RB on the BT earlier in the day. 

11/12--Haven't been on the water is several days...diverted by football and politics.
Small Creeks...past their prime












Tuesday, October 15, 2019

Sage Words from the Icons #18

Fishing a side-channel

...noticed this quote on FaceBook recently:

"Fishing has a dignity, a simplicity, a ruggedness and honesty...little dreamed about in this materialistic world"

ZANE GREY

Solid hook-up...tiny fly...in the nib

Wednesday, September 18, 2019

Truckee Angling, Last Century Throwback PART # 3

Let'em Breathe! 



Circa mid-80's Thy Rod & Staff's 8-panel brochure 
Inside Panel #3: 

LATE SEASON: LATE SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER & EARLY NOVEMBER

If fortunate, the autumn angler experiences a glorious Indian Summer with only an occasional, 
shot-lived thundershower. Crowds are gone, nights become brisk, and the aspens and alders turn golden. It is a special time of year. Stealth become a prime tactic.
Fall...Crowds are gone
Solitude is the rule at Milton. If action is slow. one  can vacate the belly-boat and start prospecting for fall spawners leaving the lake and ascending the short stretch of the Yuba River's Middle  Fork. The same regulations apply.

In October, the Truckee basin lakes will produce the largest trout of the season. The migrating 
6-10 pound Browns are encountered in Stampede, Boca, and Prosser impoundments. Fly-rodders are starting to get their share.
JR with an inlet Brown
Ex-Truckeeite Stan McCleod with fall-time Truckee River RainBow 

Wednesday, September 4, 2019

Native Sons Tour of Truckee & Little Truckee


Currently there is space available for the Native Sons Tour scheduled for September 20-21.  If you can't attend this tour get on the e-list and we'll send you future schedule tours. 2020 will be our 6th year conducting this unique angling event and the quality of the experience is spreading throughout the fly fishing community.


Friday night's "meet & greet" snacks prior to PowerPoint talk 
The Big Truckee's "Willow Run"
JB Hooked-Up at the Little Truckee's  "Sweeper #1"
2019 had Green Drakes present in Truckee area for 9 weeks! 



Thursday, August 29, 2019

E-Quicky #22...mid-July-late August

...Or, a selective, 5-week peek into the e-life of CyberFly


7/16---Inquiry on Angling Conditions:

The BT in the Glenshire stretch has been fishing well via dry dropper rigs in the pocket water. Bring your thermometer because the water is warming...I leave the water at 67 degrees. 
The PMD hatch on the LT has been really good for surface feeding trout...progressively getting fickle because of the crowds; most especially the upper area. The flows are currently at 126 cfs; decent. 

7/18---An e-note on the passing of a longtime local fly angler, John Lim:

Thanks for the update on John...we'll all miss him. He was a fixture at the LT inlet at Boca. If you wanted to know what was happening there; he was the man. I'm planning on attending his "celebration" in Auburn.



7/18---An inquiry about a recent blog post:

…stillwaters other than Boca; too crowded now with the summer crowds. I’m talking Inlets into Prosser and Stampede; best accessibility is via boats.

For sure, I can provide info as needed.

7/20---A request for angling info:

...didn't do the BT on Friday; doing an early start on the LT...recently bumped-up to a nice 140cfs. At 8 AM there were 10 vehicles in the upper parking area!...walking all the way down to the Swimming Hole for the first open run. The first PMD was observed at 9:15 and the first Green Drake in flight at 11:45.

Overall two anglers during a 6 hour session hooked 12 and landed 7; RainBows 12"-14" and two taped at 18". Productive patterns on top were #8 GD Cripple and #16 PMD Spot-Lite Emerger... indo-fishing with one or two #4 lead; a #18 Pearl Lighting Bug or a Red Rubber-Legged Copper John trailing a #14 Flesh Juan.

7/20-22---TTFF's Cliff Frazier Memorial Youth Event:

...fun "free-lancing" for two days...lot harder catching than last year...didn't make last of the three days; was a "honey-dew" time for Karen and our new pup...Pico 

7/24---Guide e-Talk:

“I’m guiding on the LT with two Monday; meeting them at 10 AM at upper parking lot…working middle or lower section if crowded.

7//31Inquiry on Conditions:

"…PMD emerger patterns are fooling the trout, even though occasionally we’ll induce a grab via #8 Green Drake Cripples…in the fast water. Carry an indo-rig for the deeper water; a PT trailing a midge pattern.  Crowds are an issue on the LT, most especially when the presence of Green Drakes in the region are mentioned via high-profile posts on FB or Instagram …Come-on guys, don’t kill the golden egg with self-serving posts!!!”

8/2---Inquiry on conditions:

"....guided on LT Monday & Wednesday, upper parking area. Both times from 1:00-4PM when the bugs are emerging and there are a few rising trout. Seems people going in the AM and leaving noon-1PM…before the hatches begin. Fish to 18” netted; mostly small 13-14 inchers. Have hooked a couple of 17”+ browns but no “to net”.

The flows are above normal. I can’t say if the existing flows are affecting the hatches. Admittedly, the hatches have been sparse, although there has been some intense emergences during the last three weeks.

The LT is really becoming too crowded.”

8/7---Inquiry on conditions:

"The BT is getting warmer and has been bumped-up to 325cfs. . I received a report of 65 degrees at 11AM!! along the Glenshire stretch….pick pockets and look for the seepage springs entering the river, flowing in at 52-54 degrees. It is now “Hoot Owl” time. So, fish below Prosser inflow now…lots of caddis at dusk”

Unbelievably Green Drakes are still emerging on the LT; masking the PMD’s that are the preferred fodder.…noticing some BWO’s, although not Flavs yet. Flows were recently dropped to 94cfs.Unfortunately, the trout are being hammered by crowds of experienced and novice anglers alike. Consequently,  trout are becoming extremely difficult to fool. Best bet has been dry/droppering in the riffles. It befuddles me why guides are taking their clients there, since trout are easier to dupe on the BT.”

8/10---Personal note to Self:

"da Consigliere informs me he saw a lone Green Drake on the LT today...WOW, 6 weeks now, after 3 weeks on the BT...PMD's are fading. Now anticipate the late-brood BWO, appearance of the Flavs, the Little Olive StoneFlies and Watery Green Sedges. Don't forget GrassHoppers as the indicator dry when fishing the riffles, deeper slots and the hydraulic cushion in front of  obstructions. 

8/19---Unsolicited Kind Words:


“got a nice rainbow…I remember Frank telling me let the fly drift down from the shallow riffles into the deeper water. That worked. It’s super fantastic to be able to put everything together on my own, using your training, and make it work.  :-)”

8/21---e-Brainstorming a New Print Advertisement:

LIZ …"1/2 day barter for an ad is great...do you have a subject that you would like to explore? Was just looking at some of our ads recently and laughin!”

ME: “Well….how about me running for president, as a 3rd party candidate as ‘the other chosen one’…a military drill instructor...the Frankie Hendrick’s Experience…Uncle Sam demanding you vote."

 8/27--- Question about the LT:

Yes, it seems your observation is correct on the LT. Similar to the past more small fish (6"-12") this time of year...also browns are appearing in the mix.

My only guess is that the large trout, 16 inches plus, have been /harassed/hammered/hooked several times that they are more educated and have become very selective...allowing the small fish to come-out of hiding to play and eat without being intimidated by their bigger brethren.

.




Tuesday, August 13, 2019

Sage Words from the Icons #17

Let'em Breathe!
"Most fishermen use the double-haul to throw their casting mistakes further"

LEFTY KREH

Friday, August 9, 2019

Massive ButterFly Hatch in Tahoe!

There has been thick flights of TortiseShell butterflies in the Truckee & Tahoe area....the most I've personally witnessed  since building my first home in Truckee in 1979. I'm not seeing them along the streams or lakes though...so not a fly angling pattern to imitate...thus far.

California TortiseShell Butterfly
Nymphalis Californica 


Here is an article from the SF Gate:

Massive butterfly swarms becoming the talk of Tahoe

There aren't enough to block out the sun, but social media posts out of the Lake Tahoe area show enough swarming butterflies to get just about anyone who encounters them to pull over and start taking pictures.

While some think the butterflies are migrating monarchs — which have been declining at an alarming rate in California — the Reno Gazette-Journal identifies them as California tortoiseshell butterflies that are visiting the Sierra in search of the remnant of our winter snow pack.
The butterflies are known to frequent beaches and puddles in search of salt from the soil, according to the newspaper.
The bugs can be identified by their orange and red wings, and social media posts show them swarming in a few locations around the region".






Thursday, August 1, 2019

Truckee Angling...Last Century ThrowBack...PART #2

Let'em Breathe!

Circa mid-80's Thy Rod & Staff  8-panel brochure, Panel 2, Inside:


MID-SEASON: JULY, AUGUST & EARLY SEPTEMBER
*notes present-day changes

"The water warms and the runoff subsides. Up to the end of July, an angler can spend pleasant mornings at Martis Lake* casting to sighted "cruisers" along the wees edges. These "gulpers" leisurely inhale Callibaetis duns and spinners. Timing their rises and tracking their movement pattern is a challenging and contemplative game.
Mid-day angling on the Truckee Rivers is relaxing. Access is easy and the wading is non-threatening on the upper "Wild Trout" section. About six miles** of it have special regulations of interest to the fly rodder: 2-limit,; single, barbless artificials only; minimum 15". A freestoner, the Truckee has a balanced mix of riffles, runs, pools and pocket-water. Large fish are in residence. Keeping things in perspective, the median trout size in the Truckee River is within the 10"-12" range. They are all well-finned and stream born.
During the evening  sessions, entailing late-afternoon to dusk. the Truckee becomes intriguing. During the period, the river confirms its well earned reputation as a "night-stream". There are opportunities for double-digit hook-up during the even rise."


* The lake's fishery and angling experience declined in the mid-90's. Nowadays it is seldom fished by knowledable, local anglers. There is an occassional report of decent fishing in early spring. 

** as of 2008 there is 20 miles of special reg waters to the CA/NV state line...open all year. General season is articicals only, 2-take, minimum 14". Winter regs (November 15 to lst Friday in April) same excepy, no take!

                        
Truckee's Toilet Bowl along Legacy Trail
daDean casting to risers at the "Willows"

Thursday, July 25, 2019

Truckee Angling, Last Century ThrowBack PART #1

Let'em Breathe!!
I was going through a jumble or paperwork in my upstairs office space and I came across an 8-panel Thy Rod & Staff  brochure I had printed and distributed in the mid-80's to early '90's....the infancy of my fly fishing guide service.

I quickly read through the copy and then wondered if there were similarities or changes...in the Truckee, fly fishing "scene" then and now. Here's Panel l, Inside:


 The Area 

The Lake Tahoe region is a world renowned, diversified recreational playground. The addition of trophy trout angling in the area's alpine waters make this the premier outdoor site in the pristine High Sierra

During the70's California's Fish & Game became aware of the natural fishery potential that the area possessed. Working with California Trout, the angler conservation organization, the state instituted "Wild Trout" waters. Restrictive regulations in the form of creel limits, minimum and maximum size requirements and gear use was mandated. The area now sustains self-perpetuating, natural trout populations without the intrusion of hatchery fish that dilute their native instincts. Rainbows, brooks, browns and cutthroats, all jewels in their own right, are available to the conscientious fly angler in and around the Tahoe-Truckee basin 
Let'em Breathe!!


Thursday, July 18, 2019

Sage Words from the Icons #16

"Trout are not smart; they are instinctive. They know that their food is a certain size, shape and color, and most importantly, that it travels at the same speed as the current. Anglers who stray from that basic formula have extreme difficulty catching trout."

JOHN  GIERACH 

Book: All Anglers Lie...Chapter 4, Fly Fishing Tailwaters...page 30

Tuesday, July 16, 2019

Summer Mode in Truckee


Lot of consecutive warm and breezy afternoons. The BT has receded, we're seeing more airborne bugs throughout the day...and at times, intense, evening caddis emergences, thick flights of Little Yellow StoneFlies and sparse mating-swarms of Sulfurs (?). 

Middle Truckee water-temps range 51-59. Picking-pockets within boulder gardens temps a lot of feisty (read smallish 7"-10" RainBows). The largest I've witnessed is an 18" RB which ate an #18 Black/Red Zebra Midge, it was stationed at the riffle-inflow of a deep-pool. I've netted RB's to 16 inches; via a #16 PMD Hackle-Stacker. I've heard of a19" trout eating PMD emergers, at dusk (below image)...But, no first-hand nor grapevine Browns; most especially those of out-sized proportions.
Magic-Time on the Truckee's "Toilet Bowl"

As you proceed downstream below either Prosser or Boca dams; you'll  experience two things; heavier flows AND cooler water-temps, 1-3 less. The aforementioned is enlightened angling strategy as we progress into the heat of late-summer to early fall-time.

Don't forget you'll encounter lots of commercial rafting below the inflow at Boca. They are legally permitted to enter the main river at the Boca dam's inflow of the LT no earlier than 10 AM and off the water no later than 5PM; at Floristan only. During the entire trip from Boca to Floristan; the rafters can not disembark.

Water-temps are not an issue on the Little Tricky (LT); being a bottom-release tail-water. My last reading of the inflow from the dam was 46; it should remain in 44-46 degree range...warming as it meanders through meadow,  "canyon water" and into Boca.
Fooling one at "The Willow"
Last Saturday, Stampede looked like it was dampening the spillway. It was ramped-down to "I-don't- like" 70cfs for about two weeks (my preference is 125-250); dropped quickly to 50 cfs and immediately to its current 126cfs...I like it! During an up-ramp my go-to sub-surface, searching, terminal-rig entails  a #14 FleshJuan ... trailing anything small; #18-22 Black Zebras, JuJu BaetisRubber-Legged Red Copper Johns.

As for the bugs?...the usual suspects for mid-summer: BWOs, PMDs and Western Green Drakes.
LT BWO...Be aware of a "masking hatch"
Late-morning to mid-afternoons are your best opportunities for the mayfly emergences. Thus far, unfortunately, the hatches and corresponding surface-feeding has been less spectacular than I've anticipated. Overall, bring your "A-Game" or be humbled here.

HINT: Stillwaters
                                             Yeah!!!..a collector hat 

Tuesday, July 9, 2019

ThrowBack Truckee River Regulation Sign

My recollection is that the below California fishing regulation sign was mid-'80's; guessing '84-'86. I consider it the second-generation sign in that the first special regulations for the Truckee River were instituted in either '82 or '83. These C and R rules made the Truckee River a new addition into California's "Wild Trout" program.

TRUCKEE RIVER
   ANGLING  REGULATIONS
OPEN SEASON:

Last Saturday in April through November 15



LIMIT: TWO TROUT


Minimum size limit: 15 inches total length.

Only Artificial flies or lures with

Barbless hooks may be used



 Area
Regulations
(B) Truckee River from the confluence of Trout Creek downstream to the Glenshire Bridge.
artificial lures only
(C) Truckee River from the Glenshire Bridge downstream to the mouth of Prosser Creek.    
artificial flies only
(D) Truckee River from the mouth of Prosser Creek downstream to Boca Bridge.
artificial lures only
(E) Truckee River from Boca Bridge downstream to the confluence of Gray Creek.     
no gear restrictions

               CCR SEC.  7.50 Title 14
Resources Agency of California

The first generation sign had just two special regulation sectors, not four as noted above. From Trout Creek to the Boca Bridge (the old one...closed when?) it was barbless artificials only, two take, minimum 15". From Boca Bridge down stream to Gray Creek it was any gear, two-take, no size requirement. General regs from Gray Creek to the CA/NV border; any gear, 5-take, any size.

Below is the current Truckee river reg sign; 4th generation. These rules were instituted in 2008. Main change was the river being open to angling during the winter; November 16 to the last Friday in April. 
There will be new regulations forthcoming in 2020; the Truckee seems to be included; along with other local waters. If such occurs, then there will be new signs posted. These will be the 5th generation signs. The new signs will be produced and hung throughout the area by volunteers from the Tahoe Truckee Fly Fishers...such has been done in the past.